Saturday, December 30, 2006
Blair on Democracy in the Middle East
..."Our task is to mobilise that desire and harness it to ensure that all people here can have opportunities for safety, security, democracy, freedom and economic prosperity. Otherwise we allow the forces of extremism to win in the absence of a clear and constantly articulated alternative vision."...
The Palestinians exercised democratic freedom, and in return, Bliar and other Western countries withdrew funding from the Palestinians, crippling their economy, security, and rights to freedom and justice.
..."The lesson of all of this I see as startlingly real, clear and menacing. There is a monumental struggle going on worldwide between those who believe in democracy and modernisation, and forces of reaction and extremism. It is the 21st century challenge. Yet a great part of our own opinion either thinks there is no common theme to it all; or if there is, is inclined to believe that it is our - that is America and its allies - fault that this is so."...
The lesson as I see it is that the West is supporting a ruthless and corrupt state of Israel against a struggling society in Palestine. America and it's allies (including the UK) are complicit in supporting criminal genocidal policies being implemented by the Israelis. Is it any wonder that moslems generally see the UK and USA as bullying, hypocritical, self-interested parties that can't be trusted?
..."Here are elements of the Government of Iran openly supporting terrorism in Iraq to stop a fledgling democratic process, trying to turn out a democratically elected Government in Lebanon, flaunting the international community's desire for peace in Palestine - at the same time as denying the Holocaust and trying to acquire a nuclear weapon capability: and yet a huge part of world opinion is frankly almost indifferent. It would be bizarre if it weren't so deadly serious."...
Here are elements of the Government of the United Kingdom openly supporting Israeli terrorism and genocide, undermining a democratically elected Palestinian Government, ignoring the non-aryan desire for justice in Palestine.
More faces than a Dodecahedron... put the pooch out of his misery, for the sake of the next 600 victims of Israeli tyranny.
Joe McGonagle
Israeli atrocities on the increase in 2006
- 660 Palestinians killed by Israeli security forces, at least 322 of which were not involved in active hostilities at the time, and 141 of which were minors. This is in comparison to a total of 23 Israelis killed by Palestinians including 17 civilians, one of which was a minor.
- Israel demolished in the order of 300 Palestinian homes, rendering about 1,800 Palestinians homeless. The Palestinians didn't demolish any Israeli homes.
Joe McGonagle
What started the war in Lebanon?
Several months have passed since I wrote to the embassies, but I have had no reply from either as yet. Perhaps the Lebanese and Israelis are both uncertain of the truth.
I also asked the UK Foreign and Commonwealth office which version they accepted, and why. They informed me that they accept the Israeli version, because the Lebanese Government has not denied it.
I am left little option but to assume therefore that the Israeli version is correct, unless any readers have some substantive evidence to the contrary?
Joe McGonagle
Cluster bomb casualties still occuring
According to a press report, 5 more lives have been claimed by these devices in Lebanon on Christmas eve, and two Belgian soldiers on mine-clearing operations have been injured according to a BBC news item yesterday. Fatalities due to cluster bombs since the official cease-fire on 14/8/06 stand at at least 28.
...and some deluded people still insist that the Israelis are just defending themselves???
Joe McGonagle
Sunday, December 24, 2006
Religion - the font of madness.
Though I have the greatest respect for Rabbi Cohen's stance on the Israeli occupation of Palestinian territory, and Israeli oppression of the Palestinian people, I think he made a very ill-considered decision to attend the conference. Also present at the conference was a former "Imperial Wizard" of the Klu Klutz Klan (David Duke, typo deliberate), and holocaust denialists such as Robert Faurisson and Fredrick Töben.
In an earlier article in The Times, Cohen is quoted as saying:
"There is no question that there was a Holocaust and gas chambers. There are too many eyewitnesses. However, our approach is that when one suffers, the one who perpetrates the suffering is obviously guilty but he will never succeed if the victim did not deserve it in one way or another. We have to look within to improve and try to better ourselves and remove those characteristics or actions that may have been the cause of the success of the Holocaust."
If we take his statement at face value, this would mean that the Palestinians deserve whatever they get, because God/Allah would have protected them if they were deserving. The same applies to any form of suffering on the planet. Is it only Christianity that (hypocritically) preaches forgiveness and tolerance?
Other aspects of the doctrine of Neturei Karta is that the very concept of a sovereign Jewish state is contrary to Jewish Law, and that they are the only "true" practitioners of Judaism.
What a crazy, mixed up world we live in - not only do we have Sunni, Druze and Shia Moslems tearing each other apart, Catholic, Protestant and plain whacky Christians, but the Jewish faith is also clearly splintered. On balance, the nature of any organised religion of any faith is chaos and killing. Remove religion, and the world would be a happier and safer place for all of us - or would we just find other ways to damage ourselves? Perhaps eye/hair colouring, or preference for certain foods would become new mass-movements to provide reasons for killing each other in addition to political beliefs, racial origin, sexuality, etc?
Joe McGonagle
Saturday, September 30, 2006
Child casualties of the Israeli/Palestinian conflict during September 2006
Palestinian children killed by the civilised, compassionate, democratic state of Israel:
10 September 2006
Jihad Selmi Abu Snaima, 14 of al-Shouka village, east of Rafah Killed by shrapnel from an Israeli shell.
11 September 2006
Ma’ath al-Shayeb, 17 of Kufor Ne’ma village, west of Ramallah, Killed by an explosion of unknown origin. (Comment from Joe - Okay, it is possible that this one was making a bomb to kill the nice cuddly Israelis, but it is possible that he was killed by unexploded ordinance from Israeli action - maybe a cluster bomb?).
12 September 2006
Mohammed ‘Omar ‘Awad Shoriya, 13 of Rakhma village, southeast of Bethlehem, Shot in the back by Israeli forces. (Comment from Joe - those brave Israeli soldiers couldn't even look this 13-year-old terrorist in the eye when they killed him).
14 September 2006
Hanan Mohammed Isma’il Abu ‘Oudeh, 16 of Beit Hanoun, Gaza, Died in an Israeli hospital from gunfire wounds sustained on Sep. 2, when she tried to rescue the bodies of her father and brother during an Israeli ground offensive. (Comment from Joe - she must have deserved it, trying to save a terrorist).
21 September 2006
Ala Saqer Dahrouj Abu Dahrouj, 15, Zeidan Rafiq Mohammad Abu Rashid, 16, Mohammad Selmi Mohammad Masalha, 17 , all of of Jabalya, Gaza Strip, Killed by an Israeli surface-to-surface missile while herding sheep. (Comment from Joe - no doubt the "Sheep" were actually rocket launchers in disguise).
Israeli children killed by the ruthless, evil Palestinian terrorists:
Joe McGonagle
Israelis continue the killing following the Lebanon "withdrawal".
Cluster bombs are notorious for failing to detonate, and in effect become anti-personnel mines. As refugees start to return to the areas which they were forced out of by the Israelis, and relief agencies start to move in to the worst effected areas, it is inevitable that there would be more casualties. It is also inevitable that most of the casualties will be children.
In Israeli newspaper "Haaretz" an IDF commander expressed his concerns about the totally inappropriate use of these weapons:
"What we did was insane and monstrous, we covered entire towns in cluster bombs," the head of an IDF rocket unit in Lebanon said regarding the use of cluster bombs and phosphorous shells during the war.
Quoting his battalion commander, the rocket unit head stated that the IDF fired around 1,800 cluster bombs, containing over 1.2 million cluster bomblets.
In addition, soldiers in IDF artillery units testified that the army used phosphorous shells during the war, widely forbidden by international law. According to their claims, the vast majority of said explosive ordinance was fired in the final 10 days of the war.
According to UN Under-Secretary-General for Humanitarian Affairs (Jan Egeland):
So, why would Israel deliberately take actions which would indiscriminately continue killing Lebanese (or international relief workers) beyond the "official end to hostilities"? The only reasons that I can think of are:
1. To inhibit the deployment of relief to the effected areas, thereby increasing the risk of starvation and disease to returning refugees.
2. To increase the Lebanese casualties beyond the cease-fire agreed with the UN.
Are these the actions of a state that was genuinely defending it's citizens, or are they effectively further examples of genocidal policy in Lebanon? The answer should be clear to anyone reading this.
Joe McGonagle
Saturday, September 23, 2006
More faces than a Dodecahedron...
Firstly, both of them expressed a willingness to assist with a resolution to the "Palestinian problem". This in spite of the fact that both withdrew funding for the Palestinian territories after HAMAS was democratically elected by the Palestinian people to represent them.
Both of them expressed a desire to encourage democracy in the Middle East. Quite aside from the fact that it isn't up to them to decide what type of government administers any foreign state, when a government which they don't approve of _is_ democratically elected, they immediately withdraw support for it! Which states in the Middle East can credit either Blair or Bush with any sincerity when they rabbit on about democracy?
Blair also whined that he wants to help the Lebanese peope recover from the Israeli attacks. All well and good Tony, but how can you reconcile this with the tacit approval given to the USA to use British soil and airspace to resupply the Israeli war machine during the Lebanese conflict?
It is up to the American people to decide the fate of their President. For myself, I will not support any party that has a multi-headed Hydra for a leader. Labour, it is definitely time for a change of leader, not when the poodle decides it is time for "walkies", but now!
With so many faces, I wonder what the costs of cosmetics are for both Blair and Bush? It cost the Lebanon 1,600 lives and a legacy of thousands of crippled, deprived, and unhappy citizens. The Palestinians are still clinging to survival, in spite of the actions of Israel and British and American support of Israeli genocidal policy.
Joe McGonagle
Saturday, September 09, 2006
Israel denies humanitarian aid to Palestinians
Source: United Nations Relief and Works Agency
UNRWA PRESS RELEASE
Press Release No. HQ/G/15/2006
24 August 2006
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Children Pay the Price as UNRWA Operations in Gaza are Grinding to a Halt
UNRWA warned on Thursday that the Agency’s Gaza operation is grinding to a halt because of the lack of access in and out of Gaza. The principal goods terminal, Karni, remains closed for the
seventh consecutive day. As a result, shortages of food, fuel and constructions supplies are jeopardizing every element of UNRWA’s Gaza operation at the moment. John Ging, UNRWA’s
Director of Operations in Gaza said that “the food distribution to 830,000 people will not commence as planned next week, unless Karni opens and a solution is found to get the containers quickly through the port of Ashdod, where there are also massive delays because of the fallout from the conflict with Lebanon.”
The Agency has just one week’s fuel supply remaining. Since the Gaza Power Plant was destroyed by an Israeli airstrike in late June, the operation of UNRWA health clinics is heavily dependant on generator power. “If we run out of fuel, this will be extremely serious in terms of the storage of medical supplies and the operation of medical equipment at UNRWA’s 18 health centers throughout the Gaza Strip,” John Ging said.
As for construction supplies, UNRWA highlighted that almost none have entered Gaza since late June, which is a particular problem as the Agency prepares for the return of its 194,000 students next week. “The work to repair the schools damaged in the military operations over the past two months is not finished as supplies have run out,” John Ging said. The long-awaited extension to the UNRWA vocational training center in Gaza City is also half-finished and with no alternative accommodation available, UNRWA has been forced to postpone commencement of the seven technical courses involved until November. “Children are once again paying the price in this conflict,” Ging stated.
Ging described the overall humanitarian living conditions in Gaza, as “miserable, frustrating and still deteriorating.” He said that “the opportunities opened up by last year’s disengagement by Israel from the settlements in Gaza are fading. The prospects are very worrying as Gaza is now cut off economically from the outside world and even keeping our humanitarian operations going is an expensive struggle”.
UNRWA is now facing a bill of some 1 million dollars from its Israeli shipping agents in demurrage charges directly arising from the closures of Karni crossing.
For more information please contact:
Jerusalem: Gaza: Gaza:
Johan Eriksson Adnan Abu-Hasna Jamal Hamad
Office: +972-2-5890249 Office: +972-8-6777531 Office: +972-8-6777488
-5890408 Mobile: +972-599428061
Mobile: +972-542402632
Lebanon conflict - casualty statistics
Whichever way you cut the figures, at least 66% of people killed by the Israelis were civilians, whereas only 25% of those killed by Hezbollah were civilians. Importantly, Hezbollah did not have the accurate technology which was available to the Israelis, if they did, their figure would probably be even less than 25%.
Against this, it has been argued (probably correctly to some extent) that Hezbollah sited their forces close to civilians. I still don't think that this argument justifies the differential, given the better technology available to the Israelis, the sparseness of the civilian population in Southern Lebanon (many of the civilians left the area quite early in the conflict), and the fact that the Israelis had the option as to whether or not to attack a particular target.
The only conclusion that I can reach is that Israel were negligent in their targeting policy, or else they were deliberately targeting civilians. Either way, it demonstrates that they considered Lebanese civilians as expendable (in the order of 1,600 were killed outright and 3,600 wounded).
The Israelis must be disappointed that they had to stop killing civilians before they managed to finish the job completely - just as Hitler failed to eradicate the Jews in WWII. Still, they have scope for more success in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, maybe they will manage to complete the task there (the West are still turning a blind eye to the Israeli attempts of genocide against the Palestinians).
Joe McGonagle
Wednesday, September 06, 2006
Proportions
In the same period, 779 Palestinian children have been killed.
So far this year, 1 Israeli child has been killed, and 73 Palestinian children.
What does this say about Israeli morality, political, and military policy? Israel is supposed to be the advanced, civilised state, and the Palestinians the nasty, murderous terrorists. This is not the situation reflected by the cold hard statistics.
www.rememberthesechildren.org is a site which tries to record the details of each child killed on either side. If you are religious, you might like to visit the site and say a prayer for the slaughtered innocents (and the potential terrorists). Whether you are religious or not, please circulate the link to raise awareness of the true situation.
Joe McGonagle
End of the war?
I think it is unlikely. Israel's actions have increased support for the very groups that they have tried to eliminate. There are now many more Lebanese widows, widowers, orphans, and people crippled or impoverished by the Israeli war crimes.
The attack on Lebanon has increased global awareness of the injustices being perpetrated by Israel (although incredibly many people still don't recognise them as such).
Regardless of what transpires in Lebanon, I shall continue to highlight Israeli injustice on this blog. The fact is, I am spoilt for choice when it comes to material. Items that I intended to place on the blog weeks ago are still crowding my inbox, and I am conscious that many readers have neither the time or the patience to thoroughly read and digest all of my postings here, so I intend to trickle-feed material so as not to present too large a volume for readers to consume in one sitting.
Joe McGonagle
Monday, August 21, 2006
Go get 'em, George (Galloway)
I am no fan of George Galloway, I suspect his motives and his morals, but in this interview for Sky News (UK), I can't fault him - he speaks the truth, without pulling any punches, making a total fool out of the interviewer in the process. To view the interview, click on the following link (make sure you turn the volume down!).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw
Thanks to Judith for the lead.
Joe McGonagle
Thursday, August 10, 2006
Even 3-year-olds are valid military targets (so long as they are not Israeli)
The first took place on October 5th 2004 in the Gaza strip. Imam Al-Hamas was a 13-year-old girl on her way to school, wearing a school uniform and carrying her books in a back pack. As she passed an Israeli observation post, she was fired on. A transcript of radio traffic between the observation post, the local commander, and the operations room is as follows:
Observation post: "It's a little girl. She's running defensively eastward."
Ops room: "Are we talking about a girl under the age of 10?"
Observation post: "A girl of about 10, she's behind the embankment, scared to death."
[shots fired at Imam]
Observation post: "I think that one of the positions took her out."
Local commander: "I and another soldier are going in a little nearer, forward, to confirm the kill. [pause] Receive a situation report. We fired and killed her ... I also confirmed the kill. Over."
Local commander: "This is commander. Anything that's mobile, that moves in the zone, even if it's a three-year-old, needs to be killed. Over."
Links to coverage of this event:
Washington Post
Mindfully.org
The next event is undated. It is an eyewitness account by Chris Hedges, a reporter for the New York Times, recounted during an interview with National Public Radio:
"....over the loudspeaker from an Israeli army Jeep on the other side of the electric fence they were taunting these kids. And these kids started to throw rocks. And most of these kids were 10, 11, 12 years old. And, first of all, the rocks were the size of a fist. They were being hurled towards a Jeep that was armor-plated. I doubt they could even hit the Jeep. And then I watched the soldiers open fire. And it was - I mean, I've seen kids shot in Sarajevo. I mean, snipers would shoot kids in Sarajevo. I've seen death squads kill families in Algeria or El Salvador. But I'd never seen soldiers bait or taunt kids like this and then shoot them for sport. It was--I just--even now, I find it almost inconceivable. And I went back every day, and every day it was the same".
Read a transcript of the interview at Palestine Media watch or listen to the interview at National Public Radio (fast forward 24 minutes into the programme).
The third incident in this blog entry occured in January of this year (2006). 9-year-old Aya al-Astal was killed by Israeli soldiers while wandering close to a fence separating Gaza Strip from Israel. For the full article, visit the Australian Broadcasting Company web site.
I could go on, but the list of child casualties amongst Palestinians is endless and continuing. Your Government wherever you are needs to act to prevent these needless deaths, and curb the Israeli genocidal programme. I can't do that for you - you, the reader needs to bring these facts to light with your local government representative.
Joe McGonagle
Wednesday, August 09, 2006
THE SHAME OF BEING AN AMERICAN (or an American poodle state)
The article is a condemnation of Israeli and US policy in the Middle East, and supportive of th eplight of the Palestinians and Lebanese. It has really got the rednecks worked up, many of them accusing him of being a communist, anti-semite, traitor to the American nation, etc. It has also been published on numerous web-sites, most of them concerned with Human Rights, conspiracy theories, and yes, some anti-semitic sites as well. The full article can be read here.
One of his accusations in the article is as follows:
" Indeed, Israel, which has one of the world's largest per capita incomes, is the largest recipient of U.S. foreign aid. Many believe that much of this "aid" comes back to AIPAC [American Israeli Public Affairs Committee], which uses it to elect "our" representatives in Congress."
Whatever your position, you can't simply ignore what this man is saying - he is well qualified, and has been involved in US policy decisions in the past. He is the author of several books on the topics of economics and politics which have been well received. I would question if anyone else is better qualified than he is to make such a statement as that above, he seems also to be spot-on in respect of some of his other accusations in the article.
Thanks to Judith Jaafar for the lead.
Joe McGonagle
Get out or die (by the way, we won't let you use your vehicles)
Israel has bombed most, if not all of the bridges and main roads heading North from Tyre. Many of the people currently in Tyre are refugees from other areas of Southern Lebanon. Where are they meant to go, and how are they meant to get there?
The leaflet drop by the Israelis is intended to provide them with an excuse when they kill more civilians - "they were warned that they should leave" they will say, proving that they are after all humanitarian and want to keep civilian deaths to a minimum.
We're not all as stupid as you think, Israel.
Joe McGonagle
163 Palestinians killed in Gaza in July - 48% of them civilians
Almost half the fatalities in the Gaza Strip in July were civilians not taking part in the hostilities
In July, the Israeli military killed 163 Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, 78 of whom (48 percent) were not taking part in the hostilities when they were killed. Thirty-six of the fatalities were minors, and 20 were women. In the West Bank , 15 Palestinians were killed by Israeli forces in July. The number of Palestinian fatalities in July was the highest in any month since April 2002.
Of the incidents B'Tselem investigated in Gaza over the past month, the organization has identified three cases in which Israel may have committed grave breaches of the laws of war. A total of 13 Palestinian civilians were killed in these incidents, including 6 minors, the details of which are as follows:
Full details at the B'TSELEM web site.
Don't forget the plight of the Palestinians...
I am pleased to note that B'Tselem, The Israeli Information Center for Human Rights in the Occupied Territories continues to monitor human rights abuse in the region. Not all Israelis are without a conscience, it would seem.
Joe McGonagle
Contact your MP
Thank you Joan, I hope there are more MPs like you. If any other British residents want to contact your own MP, you can do so on-line, just follow the instructions here. Make your message as clear and concise as you can, the wording which I used was as follows:
Hello Joan,
I am unaware of your position in relation to the Israeli action
in Lebanon, and appeal to you as my MP to take whatever action
you can to oppose the apparent British Government support for the
events now taking place in the Middle East. The actions of our
current Government and also past Governments are a matter of
shame to the British people.
(you should also include your full name and address, and remember, only your local MP is obliged to represent your views!)
Tuesday, August 08, 2006
Proportional body-count
Prisoners of War:
Israeli prisoners (held by Hezbollah) - 2
Lebanese prisoners (held by Israel since this outbreak) - not known.
Killed/ missing, presumed dead:
Israelis: 94
Lebanese: 1,008 (45 % of them children, probably considered by the Israelis as "potential terrorists").
Ratio - 1 Israeli to 10 Lebanese.
Wounded:
Israelis: 1,867
Lebanese: 3,293
Ratio - 5.6 Israeli to 10 Lebanese.
Airborne attacks:
Hezbollah (rockets): 3,000
Israeli (Bombing missions): 8,700
Ratio - 2.9 Israeli bombing missions to every Hezbollah rocket launched.
Note that the Israeli missions may involve multiple bomb deliveries, and that Hezbollah rocket technology is far less accurate than Israeli (US) bombing technology.
Other statistics:
Lebanese bridges destroyed: 146
Lebanese people displaced: 900,000 (including 300,000 potential terrorists)
Rate of rocket attacks by Hezbollah (first week - 90/day) (last week - 169/day)
An increase of 88% - what are the Israelis bombing? - potential terrorists I suppose.
Countries against demanding an immediate ceasefire - USA, UK, Israel.
Countries for demanding an immediate ceasefire (AKA terrorist sympathisers) - the rest of the world.
Joe McGonagle
Saturday, August 05, 2006
The Poodle Yelps....(did anyone notice?)
The speech itself is full of woolly references like "a complete renaissance of our strategy" and other meaningless oratory, and nothing of substance. Many of his comments reveal either total cynicsm, a belief in "the power of democracy", total acceptance of the Israeli version of events, and a lack of will to confront the Israeli aggressors.
I comment below on selected extracts from his speech:
"The purpose of the provocation that began the conflict was clear. It was to create chaos, division and bloodshed, to provoke retaliation by Israel that would lead to Arab and Muslim opinion being inflamed, not against those who started the aggression but against those who responded to it".
Stories about the incident which sparked Israel's action vary. My own recollection is that Hezbollah kidnapped two Israeli soldiers. I am now inclined to think that the sequence of events is as follows, based on articles such as those at http://www.antiwar.com/frank/?articleid=9401
and at http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/israeli_solders.html
1. Israeli soldiers cross the Lebanese border to make an arrest in a village close by.
2. Inside Lebanese territory, the military convoy is attacked by Hezbollah, killing 8 Israelis and taking two prisoner.
Later, a story surfaces that the Israeli soldiers were kidnapped on Israeli soil, and that a simultaneous rocket attack near a village called Shelomi was launched by Hezbollah as a distraction.
It's not clear-cut, but my gut instinct tells me that the sequence of events is as per 1 and 2 above. The "news" of the Shelomi "rocket attack" did not emerge until some time after the Hezbollah capture (not kidnapping - the Israeli's were on Lebanese territory) of the 2 Israeli soldiers. There were no reports of casuaulties, and I have seen no real details of the supposed rocket attack. It is my opinion that the stotries of the rocket attack and that the Israelis were on Israeli soil were generated by Israel in order to justify the all-out war on Lebanon. If anyone can produce convincing evidence to the contrary, please add it to the comments here - I very much doubt that any convincing evidence will be available.
Given that my opinion is correct, the statement by the poodle above should be a condemnation of Israel.
"We will continue to do all we can to halt the hostilities."
A blatant lie - as of yesterday, US flights carrying ammunition to Israel were still refuelling in the UK.
"we will not win the battle against this global extremism unless we win it at the level of values as much as force, unless we show we are even-handed, fair and just in our application of those values to the world."
Poodles apparently have no concept of "even-handed" or "fair". Oterwise, his statement is correct.
"What are the values that govern the future of the world? Are they those of tolerance, freedom, respect for difference and diversity or those of reaction, division and hatred?"
How much tolerance, freedom, or respect do the Israelis grant the Palestinians? Even poodles have more of each of them (I mean dogs in general, not just British Prime Ministers).
"We committed ourselves to supporting Moderate, Mainstream Islam. In almost pristine form, the battles in Iraq or Afghanistan became battles between the majority of Muslims in either country who wanted democracy and the minority who realise that this rings the death-knell of their ideology."
[The following quote is out-of order, but directly related to my comments below]
"Its [terrorism's] purpose is explicitly to prevent those countries becoming democracies and not "Western style" democracies, any sort of democracy. "
And when the Palestinians used democratic process to elect HAMAS, did the West support the democratic process? No, they withdrew all funding, forcing the Palestinians even deeper into poverty and disarray. Is it any wonder that most Palestinians and their supporters view the West as duplicitous supporters of the oppressive Israeli regime? Are they wrong in this view? I see plenty of evidence that they are exactly right.
"To turn all of this around requires us first to perceive the nature of the struggle we are fighting and secondly to have a realistic strategy to win it. At present we are challenged on both fronts."
This is one of the few statements which I agree with - the West needs to treat Israel just like we treated Croatia. This is probably not what the poodle meant though.
"Suddenly, without warning, Hizbollah who have been continuing to operate in Southern Lebanon for two years in defiance of UN Resolution 1559, cross the UN blue line, kill eight Israeli soldiers and kidnap two more. They then fire rockets indiscriminately at the civilian population in Northern Israel."
Er, can we have a fact check here please? I know that my opinion may be wrong, but what does a poodle base it's opinion on? Who feeds it?
The speech goes on, so does the killing and the oppression. We need a regime change in the UK, the poodle needs to be put down.
Joe McGonagle
More Israeli Quotes
Some famous quotes from Israeli Prime Ministers regarding the Middle East conflict:
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.
David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): " If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp. 121-122.
"We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never do return... The old will die and the young will forget."-David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, July 18, 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's "Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet," Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.
"We must expel Arabs and take their places." - David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.
"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." - David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.
"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, 'What is to be done with the Palestinian population; Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'? Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979; Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet.
"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country." - David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.
"There is no such thing as a Palestinian people... It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn't exist." - Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.
"How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to." - Golda Meir, March 8, 1969.
"This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by God Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its legitimacy." - Golda Meir, Le Monde, 15 October 1971
"I have learned that the state of Israel cannot be ruled in our generation without deceit and adventurism." --Moshe Sharett, Israel's first Foreign Minister and later a Prime Minister (p.51 Simha Flapan, "The Birth of Israel", 1987)
"The state of Israel must invent dangers, and to do this it must adopt the methods of provocation and revenge.... And above all, let us hope for a new war with the Arab countries so that we may finally get rid of our troubles and acquire our space." -From the diary of Moshe Sharett, Israeli's first Foreign Minister from 1948-1956, and Prime Minister from 1954-1956.
"[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs."-Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the 'Beasts,"' New Statesman, June 25, 1982.
"(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." - Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988
"If we thought that instead of 200 Palestinian fatalities, 2,000 dead would put an end to the fighting at a stroke, we would use much more force...." - Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, quoted in Associated Press, November 16, 2000.
"I would have joined a terrorist organization." - Ehud Barak's response to Gideon Levy, a columnist for the Ha'aretz newspaper, when Barak was asked what he would have done if he had been born a Palestinian.
"Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass expulsions among the Arabs of the territories." Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former Prime Minister of Israel, tells students at Bar Ilan University, From the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.
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[note from Joe follows]
While it is true that anti-Israeli and anti-Jewish factions have made similar statements against Israel and Judaism, it is important to note that only Israel has the military might and the international support to actually carry out their threats. They also have vulnerable (and captive) populations on which to carry their threats outs.
It is also important to distinguish between someone being anti-Israeli and anti Jewish. Many Jews would actually agree with most, if not all of the sentiments expressed in this blog. Just check the list of names in the open letter from the Canadian Health Professionals earlier in this blog (under the title "Gaza Strip facing starvation and disease") - quite a few of the names appear to be of Jewish extraction. It is of course very difficult for Jewish people to express anti-Israeli views publicly, yet some are brave and honourable enough to do so.
I also wish to add that I am ashamed of the support provided by the British Government over the years to the tyrannical Israeli regime. If Palestine was Kosovo, Poland, or Bosnia, matters would be very different.
Joe McGonagle
Thursday, August 03, 2006
Israeli abuse of Palestinian children
Defence for Children International/Palestine Section
"The Israeli intelligence services (Shabak) continually seek to recruit children as informants. A field survey with former child detainees conducted in 2003 by DCI-PS, estimated that 60 per cent of the children interviewed, some of them are as young as 12, were reported to have been tortured or subjected to other forms of coercion or inducement in an attempt to make them cooperate. By
late 2003 in Gaza alone there were on average 40 attempts to recruit minors every month."
Joe McGonagle
Legal definition of a child in Israel
Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Network
Israel's Human Rights Behaviour July 2004-July 2005
"According to the Military Order 1500 put in place during the British Mandate period in Palestine, children in the OPT [Occupied Palestinian Territories] aged 12 and older can be tried in military courts, and a child over the age of 16 is considered an adult.
Article 1 of the Convention on the Rights of the Child stipulates that “a child means every human being below the age of eighteen years.” It must be noted that Israel keeps to the internationally recognised definition of a child among its own citizens but applies a different standard to Palestinian minors in the OPT. "
Joe McGonagle
Israeli Police hold deaf-mute Egyptian teen in custody for four months
Police hold deaf-mute Egyptian teen in custody for four months- by Ruth Sinai, Haaretz Newspaper, 02 December 2004
A deaf-mute 15-year-old boy, apparently an Egyptian citizen, has been held in police custody for the past four months, along with adults, without legal representation or the presence of a social worker - and without the ability to communicate with those in his surroundings.
Full article at this link.
Wednesday, August 02, 2006
Confusing evidence
I received an article via email from a Lebanese citizen. It comprised 5 photographs with a brief narrative in English and Arabic, but it lacked critical information including the date, time, and location of the incident.
I searched the internet and found that the article was widely available, but only two sites, the BBC web site and the "Colorado Campaign for Middle East Peace" (CCMEP) web site carried more detail.
The series of images depict what initially appears to be a routine stop-and-search operation. According to the CCMEP site, this took place on 8th March 2002 in Beit Hannana, Jerusalem. Two men were stopped, one identified only as "Randy", the other as 23-year-old Mahmoud Salah.
The images were reportedly extracted from video footage taken by a local resident.
The images show the Israeli border guards subduing Salah before cutting off all of his clothing except for his underpants. Salah appears to be completely under the control of the border guards, lying face down on the ground with his hands tied behind his back. "Randy" doesn't appear to be subject to the same level of restraint by the guards.
In image 5 at the CCMEP site, one of the guards appears to be restraining Salah's legs, while another one is raising Salah's arms (which are still tied), Salah still face-down on the ground. A third guard stands a few feet away with a pistol pointing at Salah's head.
In the following image, only Salah's body can be seen, a large pool of blood surrounding the area where his head should have been.
The final image shows a "Wheelbarrow" (remote-controlled robot used to defuse or detonate suspected bombs) manipulating unidentifiable material near the body.
On the face of it, it appears to be an unjustified execution, however, according to a police statement, Salah had an explosive device fixed to his chest, out of sight of the camera. This appears to be supported by what I presume is a comment in a pro-Palestinian newspaper (Al-Hayat al-Jadida) which described Salah as a "member of the Aqsa Martyrs Brigades". A report attributed to a French news agency states "An anonymous caller from the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, an armed offshoot of Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat's Fatah group, on Saturday claimed that Salah had been on his way to carry out a suicide bombing in east Jerusalem in the Neve Yaakov Jewish settlement in the area".
This is a good example of some of the difficulties in assessing evidence in the Middle East. Perhaps it is true that Salah was attempting to detonate a bomb, in which case his execution would be justified. On the other hand, we only have an anonymous telephone call and the word of the Israelis that this is the case - I am sure that Mossad (the Israeli intelligence service) are quite capable of telephoning a news agency, and the Israelis have demonstrated their willingness to lie when the occasion suits them, as evidenced by their statement about the 48-hour abeyance of air strikes, for example.
The version of the article which I received (which I am certain was sent in good faith) ommitted the image with the wheelbarrow, which made the sequence appear as a clear-cut example of Israeli brutality. I can find no trace of the video footage from which the stills are reportedly taken - perhaps it did show an explosive device attached to Salah?
With so much propaganda circulating from both sides, it is often impossible to divine the truth of any specific incident. What is beyond doubt is that Israel is denying the Palestinians the opportunity to thrive, and in fact creating an enviroment where infant mortality is increased, poverty is assured, education is disrupted and life expectancy is reduced. These are facts supported by United Nations and other humanitarian agencies. It is a slow form of genocide, perhaps even more cruel than Hitler's "Final Solution". It is also guaranteed to generate support for anti-Israeli elements, even westerners like me are influenced by Israel's obvious lack of humanity.
I should add that I in no way support terrorist acts perpetrated by any group against anyone. Suicide bombing in particular strikes me as a futile act. However any reaction to such atrocities must always be proportionate.
Joe McGonagle
Tuesday, August 01, 2006
Where did Israel get their Nuclear Weapons technology?
(Thanks to Dave Clarke for the pointer).
Joe
Email the Poodle.
"I am deeply alarmed that the situation in the Lebanon, Gaza and Israel continues to deteriorate rapidly.
I am concerned that the British government has yet to use its full influence to bring about an immediate ceasefire, and full compliance with international humanitarian law.
By failing to back the UN and call for an immediate ceasefire the British government has reduced the impact of international calls for an immediate halt to the violence. As such, your current policy risks putting civilian lives at continued risk rather than helping to protect them.
I ask that you take every opportunity available within the international community to push for an immediate ceasefire as a first step to end the suffering, which worsens each day."
I invite all readers to sign the petition - even if it doesn't shift his attitude, it might give him cause for concern at the next general election. Click on the post title "Email the poodle" to add your details to the petition.
Joe McGonagle
Gaza Strip facing starvation and disease.
Canadian Health Professionals
STATEMENT OF CONCERN FOR THE PUBLIC HEALTH SITUATION IN GAZA
July 2006
As Canadian health professionals, we are deeply concerned by the silence of the Canadian government and the Canadian media about the humanitarian disaster in Gaza. We are calling on the Canadian government and the media to truthfully recognize the humanitarian situation and to respond with compassion and effective help.
Even before the capture of Cpl. Gilad Shalit on June 25, 2006, and even before the election of the Hamas government, the humanitarian situation in Gaza was dire.
* When the settlers left Gaza in August, 2005, the Israeli army left 40 percent of the land covered in millions of tons of rubble, rendering it unusable for cultivation. Israel continued to control all access to Gaza and continued to control water resources.
* After the Hamas government was elected, the Palestinian health system collapsed due to the freeze of tax revenues by Israel and the stoppage of international aid (led by Canada). Physicians for Human Rights-Israel reported at the time that Israel is responsible for the outcome of the collapse of the Palestinian civil society in general and the health system in particular. Specific to Gaza, PHR-I stated that Shifa Hospital, the central hospital in Gaza, has not received (for at least a month) the essential medicines it needs for basic care , such as furosemide (a diuretic medicine that reduces fluid pressure on the lungs and other organs) and erythromycin (broad-spectrum antibiotic). In Shifa Hospital four patients already have died as a result of the reduction in the number of their dialysis treatments from three per week to only two. James Wolfensohn, Special Envoy for Disengagement to the U.S. Foreign Relations Committee, stated on March 15, 2006, that the collapse of health services and the education system, which addresses the needs of one million children, would be a total failure for the new government, and would have tragic consequences for the Palestinian people. This should not be permitted under any circumstances.
* Six months before the capture of Cpl. Shalit, PHR-I filed a petition and a request to the Israeli Supreme Court for a temporary injunction to stop the sonic booms, deeming it a collective punishment of the civilian population that particularly traumatized children. The petition was rejected and the sonic booms persist. According to The Guardian Weekly (June 16-22), daily life was violent: 3000 Qassam rockets were fired into Israel over the past five years from Gaza, killing five people; on the other side, Israel dropped 6,000 shells on Gaza since the beginning of April, claiming the lives of elderly farmers, children, and women as well as the family of Huda Ghalia on the Gaza beach; no figures were given about Israeli ground assaults in the same five year period. The June 8th report of MSF-USA, however, reports that Israeli bombing in north Gaza was particularly intense, in one incident killing 45 cows which affected the food supply; MSF continues that bombing since the beginning of the year was so intense in the north that people could not access health-care facilities. Extra-judicial executions and kidnappings by the IDF persisted, and the day before Cpl. Shalit was captured, the IDF kidnapped a Gazan doctor and his brother.
* Before the current offensive, UN aid relief workers were giving daily food rations to 735,000 Gazans, more than half the overcrowded territory’s population of 1.4 million people. 79 percent of households were living under the poverty line and unemployment was 40 percent.(U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs, report July 12, 2006)
Since the capture of Cpl. Shalit, the situation is far worse in Gaza because of the destruction of the water, sanitation, food, health, and electricity infrastructure. As of July 8, 2006
* World Health Organisation (WHO) reports that the public health system is facing an unprecedented crisis. WHO estimates that though hospitals and 50 percent of Primary Health Centres have generators, the current stock of fuel will last for a maximum of two weeks. WHO, based on UNRWA’s data related to communicable diseases, stated that the total number of cases of watery and bloody diarrhoea amongst refugees for the last week in June and the first week in July has increased by 163 percent and 140 percent compared to the same period last year (also reported in Defense for Children International-Palestine section). WHO estimates that 23 percent of the essential drug list will be out of stock within one month. WHO is also alarmed by the tightening of restrictions on patients needing to leave Gaza for treatment.
* The World Food Programme (WFP) estimates that in June 70 percent of the Gaza population were already unable to cover their daily food needs without assistance. As of 8 July, WFP has 20 days of emergency food stocks to cover its expanded caseload of 220,000. Given the escalating crisis, there are growing numbers of people who now need assistance. WFP believes it is essential that a humanitarian corridor for relief items and personnel remains open to avert a further deterioration in the food security situation at this critical time.
* UNICEF reports that children are living in an environment of extraordinary violence, insecurity and fear. Care givers say children are showing signs of distress and exhaustion, including a 15 percent-20 percent increase in bedwetting, due to shelling and sonic booms.
* The Office of the Co-Ordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) states that since destruction of the electric plant, the lives of 1.4 million people, almost half of them children, worsened overnight. In the hottest time of the year, most Gaza residents have power for only 6-8 hours/day. In urban areas, water is available between 2-3 hours/day. The water authority has enough chlorine for two months. UNRWA reports that the Water Utility’s daily operation has been cut two thirds, resulting in water shortages and a critical situation at the sewage plants.
* On 19 July the Palestinian Human Rights Centre reports that since 28 June 2006, 115 people, mostly civilians, have been killed in Gaza, 550 have been wounded, passage of food, fuel and medicine is denied, six bridges have been destroyed, and transportation and access to medical clinics is disrupted.
According to the provisions of the Geneva Conventions (1977), the onus is on the warring state to protect the civilian population from the impact of military operations. As the occupying power, the State of Israel is bound by the Fourth Geneva Convention Articles 19 and 50 to treat humanely Gaza’s wounded and sick, to protect hospitals, to protect and care for children. Article 55 states that the Occupying Power has the duty to ensure the food and medical supplies of the population. Article 56 states that the Occupying Power has the duty, in cooperation with the national local authorities, to ensure and maintain medical and hospital services, public health and hygiene. The Association for Civil Rights in Israel, and Physicians for Human Rights-Israel, demand Israel’s immediate compliance with the Geneva Conventions and restoration of Gaza’s infrastructure.
The undersigned Canadian health professionals fear for the lives of Palestinian people. We ask the Canadian Government to demand that Israel fulfil its responsibilities as a signatory of the Fourth Geneva Convention and take immediate and effective measures to provide protection of the civilian population in Gaza, to reduce severe risks to public health, and to secure appropriate medical care. We ask our own government for the immediate restoration of Canadian aid to the elected Palestinian government to ensure that water, food, medicine and the necessities of life are immediately available and accessible in Gaza.
Yours faithfully,
(as of July 28, 2006)
Federico Allodi, M.D.
Zalman Amit, Ph.D.
Maria Applewhite, R.N., M.P.H.
Neil Arya, M.D.Past President Physicians for Global Survival,
Rand Askalan, Ph.D., M.D.
George A. Awad, M.D.
Ahmed Bayoymi, M.D.
Warren Bell, BA MD CM CCFP, Past President, Physicians for Global Survival
Saleha Bismilla Acting Family Home Visitor supervisor
Gary Bloch, M.D.
Irene Bond, R.N.
Stephen Connell, M.D.
Minella De Souza, MBBS, FRCPC
James Deutsch, M.D., Ph.D.
Judith Deutsch, M.S.W., R.S.W.
Dale Dewar, M.D., CCFP, FCFP
Irfan Dhalla, M.D.
Farzana Doctor, M.S.W.
Paul Duchastel, M.D. Past President of Association des Medecins de Langue Francaise du Canada
A.F. Elzawi, M.D. cardiologist
Vivien Fellegi, M.D.
Sarah Freke, M.D.
Maha Gabarin, O.D.
Sharon Gazeley, M.D.
Miriam Garfinkle, M.D.
Qais Ghanem, M.D.
R.F. Gindi, M.D.
Louis Girard, M.D.
Frank Guttman, M.D.
Helen Guttman, M.D.
Ted Haines, M.D.
Paul Hamel, Ph.D. Faculty of Medicine University of Toronto & President Science for Peace
Kathy Hardill, RNEC Nurse Practitioner
Fred Harris, M.D.
Sameh Hassan, M.D.
Raed Hawa, M.Sc., M.D.
D.J. Hill, M.D.
Hanna Hinnawi, M.D.
Debbie Honickman, M.D.
Paul Hwang, M.D.
Haresh Kirpalani, M.D., Professor Neonatal Medicine, McMaster U
Tara Kirpan, M.D.
Peggy Lathwell, M.D.
Abby Lippman, Ph.D.
Christie Maccalum, M.D.
Roy Male, M.D.
Debra Mandel, M.Ed., psychotherapist
Vashti Mascoll, Primary care nurse
Gabor Mate, M.D.
Alison Miculan, M.D.
Lois Milne, M.D.
Basem Naser, M.D.
Nancy Olivieri, M.D.
Mario Ostrowski, M.D.
Reem Abdul Qadir, M.S.W. R.S.W.
Clare Pain, M.D.
Michael Potter, M.A. Medical Ethics
Elizabeth Pringle, M.D.
Jane Pritchard, M.D.
F. Rabie, M.D.
Meb Rashid, M.D., CCFP
Manuel Rozental, M.D.
Guillaume Rouselet, Ph.D. Neuroscientist
Nasri J. Sami, MB, FRCSC consultant neurosurgeon
Mounir Samy, M.D. Assoc. Professor of Psychiatry, McGill
Joanna Santa Barbara, M.D. Past President Physicians for Global Survival
Eshrat Sayani, M.D.
Fred Schloessinger, M.A. psychotherapist
Gihad Shabib, M.D., Ass. Professor Ob/Gyn Ottawa U.
Nayana Somaiah, MBBS, CCFP
Tanya Suvendrini Lena, M.D., MPH
Tania Tran, M.D.
Wahida Valiante, M.S.W.
Cheryl Wagner, M.D.
Scott Weinstein, R.N.
Judith Weisman, psychotherapist
Tanya Zakrison, M.D. Chief Surgical Resident, University Health Network
Proportionate response?
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/07/12/mideast/index.html
[Shortly after the abduction of the 2 Israeli soldiers]
"Earlier, Israel's chief of staff, Lt. Gen. Dan Halutz, told Israel's Channel 10, "If the soldiers are not returned, we will turn Lebanon's clock back 20 years.""
From:
http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php?catid=138&newsid=92798&ch=0
" 24 July 2006 | 09:44 | FOCUS News Agency
Tel Aviv. Israeli Defense Forces Chief of Staff General Dan Halutz promised to bomb 10 residential buildings in Beirut for every rocket attack against Israel’s third biggest city of Haifa, Israeli online site Haaretz reports."
It would appear that the Old Testament commandment "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" has been upgraded to "Ten eyes for an eye and ten teeth for a tooth".
I suppose 10:1 is a proportion in strict mathematical terms.
Joe McGonagle
Negative comments
The one via email was from someone who I expected to be better informed about the history of the Middle East - a Canadian resident with an Honours Degree in History and Political Science. His only counter-argument was that I have an "utter lack of knowledge and understanding about the Holocaust, the Second World War, the history of the Middle East, and modern world problems".
The two critics on the mail-list also had no real counter-argument to any of my points. One simply said that "I disagree with 85/90% of what you have written", while the other one accused me of being anti-semitic and couldn't understand what I meant by the Israeli reaction being "disproportionate".
Well, I wonder if my Canadian critic would accept this link (admittedly biased) as an example of what lies behind the current friction between the Palestinians and the Israelis, or will our esteemed historian dismiss it as "terrorist propoganda"?
Our esteemed historian also found my comparison of Israel to the activities of the WWII NAZIs difficult to stomach - this is a view shared by many, for example;
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/742707.html
"Sir Peter Tapsell, a Tory MP, said Tuesday that British Prime Minister Tony Blair was "colluding" with U.S. President George W. Bush in giving Israel the okay to wage "unlimited war" in Lebanon - a war crime he claimed was "gravely reminiscent of the Nazi atrocity on the Jewish quarter of Warsaw."
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/UN/israel_un.html
"In July 2005, Jean Ziegler, the UN Special Rapporteur on the Right to Food, called the Gaza Strip “an immense concentration camp” and compared Israelis to Nazis."
http://www.alfredlilienthal.com/sanctions.htm
"WHAT HE [Dr. Alfred M. Lilienthal, American-Jewish historian, journalist, and lecturer] SAW MADE HIM HEARTSICK. HE DESCRIBED THE BEGIN GOVERNMENT AS USING "NAZI POLICY" TO RID THE WEST BANK AND EAST JERUSALEM OF PALESTINIANS JUST AS THE NAZIS HAD TRIED TO MAKE EUROPE "JUDEN REIN."[Jew-free]"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3742365.stm
"Israeli Justice Minister Yosef "Tommy" Lapid stunned Cabinet colleagues on Sunday by saying a picture of an elderly Palestinian woman searching through rubble reminded him of his grandmother. Mr Lapid is a Holocaust survivor. His grandmother was not. She died in Auschwitz."
[Lapid denied that he intended to compare Israeli actions with NAZI actions, but whether he intended to or not, the comparison was made].
I could go on, but my point is already made - even some Jewish people (some of them Israeli) agree with my comparison.
Joe McGonagle
Monday, July 31, 2006
Israel- the NAZIs of the Middle East
Relatively few people know the history of the state of Israel. People are unaware of the part played by the Jewish terrorist group 'Irgun' in the formation of the state, the massacres of Palestinian people or the bombing of innocent civilians which they carried out in their 'cause' to create a Jewish state which is now Israel. If anyone can be bothered to search for Irgun on the internet, most will no doubt be surprised at the parallels between that group, and Hezbollah and HAMAS. Irgun members have served in senior government and military posts in Israel, and some may still remain.
Israel has a long history of disproportionate responses to terrorist attack by Palestinians or their supporters; forced migration, demolition of family houses (because a single member of the family was a Palestinian activist), extended imprisonment without legal representation, annexation of territory, to name but a few. Does this not remind anyone of the NAZI "final solution"?
The amazing thing is that they have got away with such extreme inhuman acts for so long. When similar regimes appeared in Europe, Europeans acted to dismantle those regimes by force. In comparison, the UK and the USA in particular sell weapons systems to what is in essence a terrorist state.
The USA makes a big deal about spreading democracy to the Arab states, yet when HAMAS are democratically elected to govern the Palestinian people, somehow that doesn't count as 'real democracy'. Why not?
Let's examine the latest outbreak of violence in the region:
1. Palestinians kidnap one Israeli soldier.
2. Israel attacks the Palestinian territories, killing many civilians and demolishing large chunks of the Palestinian infrasructure.
How is this in any way proportionate? To continue;
3. Hezbollah (probably) kidnap 2 Israeli soldiers.
4. Israel mount an all-out war on Lebanon, attacking (amongst other targets) Beirut airport and power stations, and bridges.
Proportionate? Who are you kidding, Israel. How is a power station a valid military target in the context of this Blitzkrieg? Destroying bridges and attacking the airport can be justified in a strict sense in that it makes it harder for Hezbollah to escape or move materiel and personnel around, but that must be weighed against the devastating effect on the local population who are trying to escape from your killing ground. continuing;
5. Hezbollah launch relatively inaccurate and ineffective rockets across the border into Northern Israel.
Israel then try to blame their war on this, ignoring the fact that the rocket attacks _were_in_response_ to the attack by Israel and trusting that the general public are stupid enough to forget that fact. Maybe Israel are right, and the majority of people really _are_stupid? How else can they get away with this.
6. It transpires that US aircraft carrying ammunition to supply the Israeli NAZIs are stopping-off in the UK to refuel.
WTF are the USA doing supplying ammo to the Israelis in these circumstances? Why aren't the British Government summoning the US Ambassador to the Foreign Office and instructing him that under no circumstances are they to use the UK for transit of war materiel to Israel? Poodles.
7. As well as supplying one side of the combatants with weapons, the USA go through the motions of negotiating a settlement to the conflict.
How can they really take account of the views of the victim state (Lebanon) while at the same time actively participating in the conflict by supplying Israel with ammunition to bomb Lebanon with? Do they think the public (particularly the Lebanese) are deficient large ammounts of brain tissue? Maybe they're right, but I somehow doubt it.
8. Israel bombs a village, killing at least 54 civilians, 34 of them women and children. One was a one-day-old baby.
I suppose that the day old baby might have grown up to be an Hezbollah terrorist. This is the second time that Israel has inflicted civilian casualties on this village, in 1996 over a hundred were killed when Israel "accidentally" pounded the village with anti-personnel ammunition - the accident must have been that they left a few innocent civilians alive by mistake the first time so they decided to try again.
9. The USA and the UK start to back-pedal on their support for Israel's actions.
I wonder if that means that arms supplies to Israel via the UK have suddenly stopped? Call me a cynic, but I doubt it.
10. Israel declares that they will stop air attacks on Lebanon for 48 hours.
11. In spite of (10) above, air operations continue over Lebanon.
This just adds to the image of duplicity earned by the Israeli NAZIs.
What has been achieved by the Israeli terrorist tactics? The Blitzkrieg has been rolling for two weeks, have they taken out the Hezbollah rocket launchers? Have they caused irreparable damage to Hezbollah? No, but they have caused a mass-migration of refugees, destroyed swathes of Lebanese infrastaructure, and killed at least 800 people, many of them women and children. If the keep going for a year or so, maybe they will achieve total genocide in lebanon, something which Adolf Hitler and his fellow NAZIs failed to do. They have also boosted support for groups like Hezbollah - I know that if my electricity and water supplies were disrupted, my home destroyed, my family members murdered by the Israelis, I would be first in the queue to join a group like HAMAS or Hezbollah.
What started this again? Oh yes, the nasty terrorists kidnapped 3 Israeli soldiers. Obviously, the Israeli NAZIs have no concept of "proportionate response".
Don't get me started on the US attitude to Iran and North Korea developing Nuclear weapons - why aren't they objecting to Israel's Nuclear weapons?
Joe McGonagle